That already happened. Joined Apr 14, 2016 Messages 1,905 Kin 0 Kumi 0 Trait Points 0⚔️ Dec 4, 2016 #1 Was shanks supposed to be the king of pirates? If Shanks didn't lose his arm back then, would have Luffy been psychologically affected by the accident ? Strength 2 Pints: Shanks : Akainu: 1 P: 1 P: Shanks Vs Akainu. Running out of haki isn't exactly a new thing in the series and even Law points out Luffy is wasting his haki when he uses gear 4. But logically speaking, there are clues that already showed he couldn't have lost his arm like that, unless he gave it up. In that same chapter, Luffy easily oneshots the Sea King. We provide you with the latest breaking news and videos straight from the anime & manga industry.You can also enjoy articles & reviews on manga, cosplay, anime games,otaku lifestyle and more! (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Sotaku is your anime news & entertainment website. They feel ashamed for this act and some of Shanks family members split off and started to live among humans. I feel like we're in the minority on this, but I do think Shanks lost his arm to teach Luffy something. Everyone’s favourite Red Haired Pirate lost an arm because the story wasn’t interesting enough at that point. He said something along the lines of “Shanks is still incredibly powerful without his arm”, and took that to mean he’s at full strength. No, with this being Luffy's dream, surpassing Shanks is an end-game goal. This doesn't mean he's already stronger than Shanks. We get to see the power of the World's Strongest Swordsman in Chapter 51. Before giving it, he wanted to strengthen his link with Luffy. Maybe he had such faith in Luffy he didn't care if he lost his arm, and when rushing to save him he cared more about keeping Luffy safe than himself. All content cited is derived from their respective sources. Shanks is a relatively tall man (just under two meters), well-built, tan-complexioned, and in the prime of his mid-adulthood. Later, at Water 7, Garp was the one who explained to us what Shanks’ really was, and how strong he was! Oda's been thinking about the Yonko (and therefore an end-game Shanks) before the story even began. First off how can people not see that as being incredibly manipulative? One Piece would’ve been a lot different if Shanks hadn’t done what he did. In the latest chapters big mom was so sure of being the king/queen but was stopped because of the lack of military force. The rubber boy has taken several decisions which could have resulted in his , and the crew's demise. If Mihawk is such a tough obstacle for Zoro, then Shanks is likely one for Luffy. so im guessing he is indirectly saying he put faith on luffy even with the cost of losing his arm. Top 50 Best Movies of The Decade To Watch On Netflix... Top 30 Dark Anime Series List [Best Recommendations], Top 16 Best Anime About Mafia, Yakuza & Gangsters, The Top 20 Must-See Japanese Animation Movies of All Time. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. ). \"Gomu\" means \"rubber\" in Japanese. Reborn ~~Inglorious Bastards~~. Jan 18, 2020 #6 Because Gol D Roger sickness is … Oda wanted to introduce Fishmen at Chapter 3, which means the concept of humans being strong enough to fight them underwater was likely there (like Sanji and Kuroobi). What's with the downvotes in this thread? But I don't think Shanks would deliberately lose a arm just to teach Luffy a lesson. Shanks is one of the most laid back characters in the world of One Piece, preferring to take his time as he and his crew travels around the world rather than rushing from one place to another. And he already knew he wanted to have Yonko from the start. Dec 19, 2020 #22. We also know that losing his arm has not weakened him. 1. And finally, Oda wanted to put this in the manga, but he put it into the canon Loguetown Novel: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/7dwrft/did_oda_always_planned_haki_or_was_it_added_only/dq0xeal/. https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/7dwrft/did_oda_always_planned_haki_or_was_it_added_only/dq0xeal/. I think it actively reduces the impact of his "It's just an arm" speech. Not really a fan of this explanation, I think to say he did it on purpose is just too much. Later, when Shanks was talking with Whitebeard, he explained that it was a bet. © 2013-2020 Sotaku.com. The problem is people think of it as a "plot hole" because their so obsessed with power tiers. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Arlong has stronger teeth than Lord of the Coast, but Luffy didn't lose an arm. Shanks saw the old captain in Luffy when Luffy said word for word what his old captain used to say about not backing down from a fight and how shameful it is. That sacrifice was made to hopefully bring order (luffy). But it is certainly VERY precious to Shanks. It taught him that being reckless, even if it is for a good reason, is a dangerous thing. It's not a plot hole unless you think power tiers are a fundamental part of the plot. Why Shanks gave up his arm.-0-0-0- The Red Hair pirates were finally sailing away from their final stop at Foosha Village, leaving behind events that would have repercussions that would shake the world in the years to come. If Shanks wastes Luffy to not be reckless, then he failed miserably. There is no way a Sea King could ever take his arm like that, unless he said he let it happen. What if one of those tales was about how Shank’s ancestor got saved by a certain “D.”? Which adds to Shank's status, and almost certainly means he's a strong individual. I pretty much say the same thing about Naruto when someone starts complaining that Hiruzen and Jiraiya didn't take care of Naruto as a kid or tell him his dad was the fourth Hokage. It showed what kind of person Shanks was to the viewer. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. The Reason Why Shanks Lost An Arm. Shanks risks his arm to a sea king. It’s only logical, he is a cheerful guy with the most badass crew and he even saved our beloved Luffy from the seakings, sacrificing his own arm in the process. Despite all that, Shanks has already played a very important role in Luffy’s journey towards becoming the Pirate King. When Mihawk visits Shanks to show him Luffy's first bounty, Shanks asks him if he's here to duel and Mihawk says he doesn't want to fight someone who has lost his arm. He was the one who inspired Luffy to become a Pirate. I am so sorry; that I will not be able to help you raise the child." I get what you mean, we’ll probably never be sure about all of this though. Unlike Kaido, who apparently has natural scales that won't let him be killed, Shanks seems to just be a regular human like Garp and Mihawk. Worthy of note is that… Regular. Anime and Manga - Other Titles This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. This page describes the Crew Positions that someone can take on a ship. I think Shanks was so concerned about saving Luffy that became his first goal, to the end that he gave up his arm. Shanks' willingness to keep his sword down during just a relatively harmless moment wasn't humiliating but humbling, a true testament to Shanks' perception and sense of values. That’s right! People usually talk about it as a plot hole. Why does everyone say Shanks has the best CoA (like an armor)? It was the conclusion of the lesson Shanks was already teaching; which was that he could be spat on, insulted, and even attacked, but good reason or not, no one hurt his friends. Now his Haki is on a different level, he improved it in 6 years after, to not to make the same mistake again. I am pretty sure that he did it on purpose : losing an arm in order to make Luffy evolve and to reinforce his link with him. I'll get you out." I dont understand..? Would you really want your hero to carve out your future by tricking you into thinking you cost him his arm? He says. What the editor was actually trying to establish was that while the start to One Piece was decent, there needed to be an impact. Of course, it's when what he values is truly targeted does one get the latter half of this quote. Welcome to r/OnePiece, the community for Eiichiro Oda's manga and anime series One Piece. cuz shanks tells white beard at one point that he had put bet/faith or watever in the east blue for the new era, when talking bout his lost arm. Not everything is planned out from day 1. All images are copyrighted to their respective owners. I promise you that I will come back to see you and our child. See: a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/106/52-506.0/compressed/i017.jpg – Chen Orihara Oct 5 '15 at 13:32 All rights reserved. It was the last film directed by producer-director William Castle. Everyone’s favourite Red Haired Pirate lost an arm because the story wasn’t interesting enough at that point. All this means Shanks is too strong, as a character meant to be in the endgame from the beginning. Shiba D. Inu SOLDIER 1st Class. We can make out that he was strong from the start of the Series itself. Mime Marcel Marceau, in his first major film role, plays the titular Malcolm Shanks. The real answer is because Oda doesn't give a fuck about fanmade power tiers, and nature has no power levels. Because in episode 461 when Ace meets Shanks in the cave they show his left arm its a flashback but its after he saves Luffy. In Episode 1 when Luffy BTFO'd the Sea King that nommed on Shanks arm. That’s probably all the thought that has gone into that scene at the time and it worked out good in retrospect. To top all that, he even stopped the war of the best by just making his appearance there(!! This sub is mostly an echo chamber, so if you say something outside the pinned theory thread that speaks critically of One Piece, generally, people don’t like that. And how he got there for in that instant to save Luffy? [Theory] Shanks arm. Shanks wrapped his arms around her, "I will get a bigger crew I promise this and then I will come back. 1 Joe Maya Well-Known Member. If Shanks didn't lose his arm back then, would have Luffy been psychologically affected by the accident ? Oda couldn’t think of anything better than Shanks making a sacrifice, which is often the case in the world of Anime. Jan 18, 2020 #5 He knows he will have to give his hat and arm for an idiot messiah, get surpassed by his sword rival and then get violated by Teach . He "bet" it on Luffy, for him to take the pirate route and continue the will of D he sensed in him . We know by fact (source : Vivre Cards) that Shanks was a yonko already when he lost his arm to the sea king. I just think Goda never though about how long the story will go and how things will wrap up nor how the powerscalings will turn out. Because of that particular scene, I think many characters began to like Shanks, and the series as a whole. He taught Luffy to fiercely value those bonds, to risk life and limb for them. So even if it was a plot hole, in the end it doesn’t matter, because Luffy still learned an important lesson about being a pirate. All of which is to say: shit happens. He would love to use the place as a base till the child is born but knew. Let me explain. Combined with the foreshadowing he wanted to do of Luffy's own CoC in Loguetown's canon Novel, it's not too much of a stretch to say he used Conqueror's Haki in the first chapter. Newt looks back to you and gets down on his knees and bends over the box, holding out his hand for you to take. Merely 10-20 chapters later is underwater combat with Fishmen, and humans can still fight and win underwater. Yes? The Yonkou are strong but they aren't gods (which is kind of the point of these last few arcs: revealing both their immense strengths but also their fundamental weaknesses). I personally hate the idea that he did it on purpose. Just because the Sea King was overall weak doesn't mean it couldn't have enough bite strength to take off the arm of a strong man who isn't focused at all on his own personal well-being. If you want discussion, please sort the subreddit by New. but, i would likely to say shanks is stronger than mihawk. That’s not all. It speaks more about the “why” he did it instead of “what” the action was. It might be a (big) part of the reason why Shanks passed his hat on to Luffy. Luffy likely will avoid seeking out Shanks until he feels he can actually challenge Shanks for the worth of learning how to get to Raftal. Shanks sacrificed his arm for the New Generation of Pirates. Shanks bet his arm on the new Era. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. From a story point of view, Shanks losing his arm for Luffy is part of the reason why Luffy turned around and took himself and adventuring so seriously. Dec 19, 2020 #22. Shanks become Yonko, entirely different level after losing his arm. Initially, Oda had no intention that Shanks lost his arm, but after an editor told him that the story was not interesting enough, Oda decided to cut his arm off. Monet. Plot. The fact that Shanks lost his arm has nothing to do with his strength. First thing is the time of scarring. You walk over to where he climbed and take his hand, setting a foot on a box, getting ready to climb out, but he just pulls and lifts you. Shanks came to save him again but was attacked by a monster of the sea, which ate his left arm. Today’s post is titled Red Hair Shanks One Piece.He is the guy we all probably love and respect. You sit on your knees next to him, he wraps an arm around your waist and pulls you closer. If you believe we have used your copyrighted content without permission, send us an email at [email protected] and we will remove it immediately. Even Shanks is not in his ship he showed some of his power on the crew of the strongest man in the world and this gives us a proof on his power. Which he did. "Come on Love. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. Not only for him, but also for the people he's trying to protect (which he wanted to do by confronting Higuma). It taught him that being reckless, even if it is for a good reason, is a dangerous thing. Too bad he's still reckless as fuck, even post-ts and even post-zoro telling him not to be reckless during punk hazard. “I said,” Buggy repeats just as they reach another hallway of cells, his eyes landing on a redheaded man in the first one, locking gazes with him for a fraction of a second before fixing his sight on the massive tatoo on Firefist’s back instead. I personally liked this idea. So, Shanks’ arm was used as a way to get fans hooked on One Piece. Not only for him, but also for the people he's trying to protect (which he wanted to do by confronting Higuma). Think this shows he was once EVEN stronger, or had the potential to be even better, but chose to give that up for some kid. It is similar in a way (I think) to Kuina's death and what it meant for Zoro : you can be super strong and all, but life is a very fragile thing that you must protect (even though in OP some characters have showed amazing surviving abilities lol) . Shanks crew is very much powerful in their terms but the Red Hair Pirates number might be very less than other Yonko Crews. He gave it up to drill into Luffy's head the man that a Pirate King should be. Shank's defining trait is his Conqueror's Haki. He would sacrifice his arm and quietly console Luffy, because he cared about Luffy that much. If he does he will just be attracting attention, to his un-born child. Among the Yonko past and present, he notably stands out as the smallest, most normal-sized by far, the others being various degrees of inhumanly proportioned.Living up to his epithet, indeed being its reason, Shanks' hair is toned distinctly red: usually depicted across media as deep-crimsonish. I think Shanks was already thinking of giving the Straw Hat to Luffy before Higuma attacked. While Luffy wasn't directly responsible for Shanks' lost arm (it's not like he personally bit it off), this is a moment that must still hang heavy on his conscience to this day.